The LIFT – 4 Months Later… After running the LIFT for 4 months the guys check in on some sight tinkering and look at how well the MATCH strings are holding up. The sight scope is from Dark Owl Archery and Dan is running it on the UV Slider frame. #elkshape #ABT #MathewsLIFT
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They did so much work to this bow you Don't normally see that in a year and You people out there should really Appreciate it cuz this is not normal one Year Innovation this is three years Worth of innovation in one year's worth Of bow hi guys dark out archery I've Been trying it out for a little while I Kind of like it um actually hunted with It shot a couple axis deer with the Phace 4 I like the scope a lot I have This one on a Tetra Tetra rise MH and I'm into it so the three pen post it's The most beautiful sight picture it is Super clean but it does come fixed you Have to know basically your arrow Trajectory your speeds uh when you buy The site I have three different speeds Here right now and we are looking at my Fastest bow we're going to put the Fastest speeds which is that 290 to 300 F feet a second that's what that one is And it's funny because I shoot 291 to 300 fet a second depending on if I'm Using 75 or 80 lb mods so it'll be Interesting to see if that actually Works out right for you because of your Length right so it's not just your Velocity it's your distance from I to P From deep to housing so that might not Work out the way you want it to but I'd Still start with that and it would be Close though it could definitely 20 and 30 will be on and now the question will
Be 40 is it 40 or is it 38 sure you know You can make your own I believe for Extra fee you can put whatever you want On your scope so maybe you want to put Sodium Archer oh snap look at That should be clear okay I do got to Say that UV hit it out the park with the Ergonomics of the slider like the size Of the wheel and the index flipping it Up it is yeah there's very little to ask This that site to do that it's not Already doing honestly I do wish it had A zero stop 20 like a way to Independently set that's first thing I Messaged them about yeah was Z where's The stop where's the stop need to stop At the top I think it'll have in the 2.0 Version I actually guarante be shocked Yeah there well there's not much they Left to do cuz they've like done Everything' been working out I know and I text you no I text you to bring Workout And you said that's what I'm doing said Bring your workout gear and you said no I said hell no I was like no many got to When I'm done here I got to go over to My cousins and put my tracks on my Razor Several so this I'm assuming go in there What about this guy does this fit better This is what came I think we should use What the dark owl boy Cody sent me only Worry is if thread's the same ah like a
Glove like a glove I mean when you get That where you want you like crank it Man look at that strength and Power Okay I like that noise that was a good Noise you don't ever feel you'd have a Situation where you want to dim it down Uh-uh do you from a hunting from a Hunting standpoint I don't know why I Would but I would also state that if you Just simply move it to the bottom it Won't affect a thing light's not coming From the ground that's true right Light's coming from around you but it's Not coming from below you unless you're Shining a light up from your feet then Maybe you're holding your phone with the Light on point up below you whatever to Move it out of there lot of inuendo Poach inuendo that is that is legal that Is 100% legal it's not bolted to your Bow that's the dumbest thing in the World too like you can be sitting in a Ground blind and have a light attached To the Blind that's legal but it can't be on Your boat the language is Terrible yeah like this is so dumb I Remember I had I was trying one at one Point to run a fiber optic like all the Way from up here all the way to my site It's not on my bow it is not attached to My bow it's attached to me I had like a Sleeve thing and you could turn it on
Right here and I just want to be able to Shoot during legal shooting light and See my pin from the bottom like how hard Is that the other issue with this thing Is seemed like they didn't have fine Enough clicks really yeah if you set Like go out to a hundo oh one click is Too much one click's too much yeah That's fine that'll work okay that'll Work I would assume it's still Level cuz You've got a square edged machine Bracket and a square Edge machine Bracket I don't know why it wouldn't be Level want to put levels on it just to Be fun no it doesn't hurt Jack well you Are cutting into my installing tracks Time tonight she is not level sir let's Get it leveled and then also while we're Doing this you have a Channel with a Video on the on the lift 33 and 29 and2 That you published yesterday this video Is probably a month later now let's hear Some of your dads about it like some of Your oh the Li's dope like I there's a Reason that I got Uber excited about it Is because traditionally when a bow Manufacturer makes a new product they Aren't changing every stinking thing About that product right like they'll Come out with a new Riser one year They'll come out with a new limb one Year they'll come out with a new cam one Year nobody ever red do a riser a Lim And a cam it's very rare that's cool it
Really is and uh two manufacturers Actually did that this year the amount Of change they made in this bow is so Drastic that it's kind of hard to argue When's the last time you remember a bow Manufacturer dropping a half a pound out Of their Bow's physical weight not Changing the dimension or making it Longer do you know that this this Aluminum bow is like decimals away like A couple from the carbons mhm as far as Just aluminum well so in in my vibration Test that had less vibration than the Carbon did interesting which you're Talking Vibe and noise are usually a Direct reflection of each other talking About reflex so this bow has 2 inches of Reflex which is not an ideal scenario For me I'd like to see it be less than That but they're like the Mach 30 that Just came out has three so I mean it's All it's all a parameter of what you're Trying to build right so if you're on a 30 inches of axle axle and you're Running a 6in brace height it's hard to Not have a decent amount of reflex like That because how long is your limb where Is it attach your reflex point is off of Here yeah right so if you can't move the Position back here you're going to end Up with a certain amount of reflex and It's usually a direct reflection of how Long your limbits when you start getting Into really short bows which I shouldn't
Say really short because this is pretty Normal anymore but I'm going to still Call it really short when you start Getting this short how long your limb is Is is going to dictate how much reflex You have so if your limb is an inch and A half longer here you need to move that Forward an inch and a half to get the Right brace height well that means your Grip is that much farther behind the Pivot point so the only way you're Getting around it is if your limb pocket Is wider and that's one reason why this Bow the design of it actually appears to Have less reflex but the negative po Aspect of it is the limp pocket shorter So where the limb and the Lim pocket Attach makes it have more reflex than The reer riser geom typically has that Being said it is a relatively Phenomenally shooting bow it's got a Really wide stance to It Wide stance Helps with the torque so the wider you Make this the more you can kind of get Away with this that I need a lot of that Get away we we all need a lot of it last Question on this this was for yall Josh What's your draw length 30 and a mine's 27 right so I try to tell people yes I Always go with the shorter bow and I do A terrible job explaining why so give Them like the technical term but here's The dumb knuckle Drager term is like I Get maximum efficiency out of the 29 and
A half I start at the bottom in on the 33 so bow are designed to be shot at a Certain size and it's usually typically To the peak of the length of it right so If a Bow's designed to go to 30 it's Going to be most efficient 29 to 30 if a Bow is designed to go 31 A2 it's going To be most efficient from 302 to 31 A2 Right and we're just taking Matthew as An example yeah so when you're running a Shorter draw length you're better to Shoot something closer to its peak if You can yep because the amount of Efficiency you're going to get out if You put a 30 33 bow on you it's not Going to shoot super efficient like it's It's going to be way slower now then That's just a a byproduct of this cam is Really designed to be shot in the long Run and then they try to make it fit Shorter people yep and until we get to a Point that it's cost effective to make Short cams on a small scale cuz there's Only such a percentage of people right It all boils down to what fits the Majority of people hence why they have These big adjustable cams and these Multiple modules I just cleared a Section in my shop top that is 3 and 1/2 Ft high and 8 ft long of mods for just These two Bows to cover every module they make yep Because now we have 55 60 65 70 7580 right and they're X and and let me
Finish let me finish that's poundage and Then you have an extra inch of draw Length adjustability in the bow that Wasn't there before yep right so now you Have I want to say it's 12 yep and then You have two let offs yep just to cover One yep so if you hang them and they're In packages this big right if you take That in a package that big and space it Out it's three and a half feet by eight Feet and most dealers aren't going to do That no one's stalking that no one's Dumb as me no one's dumb as me forget What it's like to stare right at a light And try to look at an adjustment key Grip what is it key grip I'm going Loosen both of these Up I just can't it was hitting me just Right to where I couldn't see it now You're doing something do that again Better high five all right guys so we Got the dark owl scope on the UV slider I'm going to run with this for a while Just cuz I'm a tinker right and I had Josh's help so Josh just want to clarify There's not a second AIS independent Adjust there not an individual scope Adjustment so this is where everything Adjusts for your for your bubble and the Rail and in theory if it's married and If everything's machine Square which if That's not adjustable and this goes into A square peg and that's a square peg it Should just bolt right on and it worked
Fine uh no issues there uh and it is a a Relatively easy swap to do there's just A screw underneath it when you take it Apart and it's easier if you take the Head all the way off so as long as you Have a square base that you're going From scope to scope you should be able To Interchange this relatively easily I Don't even I don't know if they're even Offering the sale of the head the site Without the head yet when they are well They were going to but it always said Out of stock and you couldn't order it Okay right so I and if they're doing a Smart business plan if you really want That site you're going to order it with The head they make you take right They're not going to let you can't order It with a two- pin head or you can't Order it headless at least you have Haven't been able to I should get on and Check it's been a little bit but um so That's going to come on there already And then you can swap it out for Whatever you want and there's lots of Choices but this one's pretty slick it's Definitely worth worth a good look it's Clean yeah I'm going to run with it pin Is really tiny and fine and I like that And the speeds I'm getting right now are With the 80 lb mods on 425 I'm getting 300 what are you getting speeds you've Never seen in your life it's the truth Yeah I I haven't set one you haven't set
One up yet no dude I you how many bows I've like tuned and videoed in like the Last all I care about is the ones that Are I like I like the bow a lot I really Do are you GNA go 29 and a half or 33 For out west so I have a I have a I have A 29 and a half at the house right now That I may throw together really quick Because Sun Season here opens in a week And a half more than anything I want to Abuse the strings and see what they look How they wear y cuz they're claiming Some pretty impressive stuff for a Manufactured string that comes on a bow What do you think of my strings honestly For how long youve had it and I'm very Familiar with how you treat your strings This is real this is is holding up Really good like what I have seen I am Very very impressed which I'm excited About because to to put a $150 type of String on a bow which is normally what You got to spend to get these kind of Results they only added 30 bucks oh yeah By the way they machined another half a Pound out of the bow they redesigned the Limb they redesigned the cam I mean they Did so much stuff and only asking you $30 more for what you're making it's It's amazing and impressive it really is And I I'm I am not a fanboy I hate that You get that when you say positive Things about you know the most popular Bows the industry but they did so much
Work to this bow you don't normally see That in a year and people out there Should really appreciate it cuz this is Not normal one-year Innovation this is Three years worth of innovation in one Year's worth of bow most manufacturers Don't do that I kind of expected a big Jump cuz last year they didn't change a Ton now granted making a new limb system With rubber inside of it is a big deal And it'll it'll hold up super well and Lower the vibration a little bit which Is cool nobody else did that and that's A big jump but you didn't see a a big Output there's a huge output for you Here so if you if you are looking in the Market you have to at least take a look At that bow it's damn impressive there You go the man himself guys head over Spokan Valley archery shoot the best 3D Course in the Northwest that's yours by The way uh his team go you are fully Stocked with all the mods $50,000 worth Of mods at my cost at his cost and um All the bows but I'm stoked on this I Know it's about a month later but just Want to give you guys an update on my Strings my bow is in time I haven't just Timing once and like I said I'm over 2,000 arrows and I don't even have the Shot sense in yet which tracks your Arrow count which is pretty cool uh love It Matthew's making some big splashes in 2023 2024 and I'm doing some tining
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